ABBA star, Bjorn Ulvaeus, on Mamma Mia and Brexit sadness | The Economist Podcast

2019-02-27 8

Bjorn Ulvaeus, one of the stars of ABBA, sits down with Anne McElvoy, head of Economist Radio, to talk about music, politics and what it is like to hear world-famous actors sing your world-famous songs.

Chapter One: On "Mamma Mia Here We Go Again"

00:06 The Economist asks about what it is like to meet long-standing fans
01:29 The Economist asks why it was right to make a new movie
02:42 The Economist asks if all four members of ABBA need to give permission for a new project
03:01 The Economist asks what it is like to have other people performing ABBA songs
03:58 The Economist asks about the distinctive ABBA sound
04:35 The Economist asks why ABBA is getting back together
05:50 The Economist asks how they are making music to be suited for today
07:06 The Economist asks to hear a line from one of ABBA's new songs
07:38 The Economist asks what topics ABBA wants to deal with in their new music
09:02 The Economist asks what the secret is to writing a pop song


Chapter Two: On society today

09:48 The Economist asks if any ABBA lyrics should be changed for the #MeToo era
10:52 The Economist asks if feminism has changed the presentation of the band today
12:02 The Economist asks what Bjorn means in describing himself as a "humanist"
12:47 The Economist asks if there is a song that sums up Bjorn's political outlook
13:38 The Economist asks about what Bjorn thinks about Brexit
14:53 The Economist asks if Swedish social democratic ideal is also "in tatters"

Chapter Three: Reflecting on the old days of ABBA

15:46 The Economist asks how Swedish ABBA's music is
17:41 The Economist asks which ABBA song has Marilyn French, the feminist writer, in it
18:34 The Economist asks how much Bjorn has changed since the start of ABBA
19:44 The Economist asks what song Bjorn would take to desert island

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